RE: Let's Talk about Upvoting Bonuses

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@steembasicincome! This is my first comment since a long time - I'm in the middle of writing my 'Where have I been?' post but my hiatus means I will have lost a lot of follower momentum so I'm glad that my SBI balance grows no matter if I've been active or not. Having a voting rule for your posts helps a lot too to grow from upvote rewards.

Speaking of voting rules, perhaps rule parameters for receiving upvote (or to receive your full vote balance value) should be introduced, like perhaps word count or if previous post received more than 5 downvotes your SBI upvote receives a penalty, and if your previous 2 posts each have 5+ downvotes then your SBI upvote are suspended until a post receives less than 5 downvotes.

^{OR something. I always give different examples and use cases for what I'm thinking, so keep in mind that the above paragraph was strictly an example to illustrate my idea and I do not mean for those exact rules to be implemented, but I do think people should need more than just 'money' invested in order to be rewarded with lifetime upvotes. They should also need to invest quality and time (By time I just mean spending time creating their creations)}

Another thing is you could promote some trusted community members to screen new enrollments and maybe once a week each trusted member could take a peek at the authors who had received SBI votes that week.. and just put anybody not up to standards on a 'watch list' and maybe they send a polite message if two weeks in a row they aren't up to snuff..

I don't know, again just idea bouncing around in my head that I can't yet think of a good example that will sell the idea perfectly.. but I just hope to illustrate my thoughts because..
I have seen quite a few SBI votes going to crap posts, sometimes it's not even a crappy author but they just don't realise the implications or they are the type who don't understand why buying 5 bot-votes for a post with less than 50 words is considered abuse by most.. You know, the truly naive ones who mean no harm but just need guidance.

_{Sometimes though it's just lazy people trying to make as much profit on their crap as they can.}

I'm glad to come on to this old post and see that the result turned out more favourable than the original proposal.

From reading the comments in here I am going to assume the change made to upvote rewards is that the rewards value in return for our votes will decrease 0.10 per week until we've reached a return of 0.5x our regards value?

So we are pretty much there as of next week?

Is that the only change that has been made to SBI? Is it the only planned change to SBI? You may have a post talking about delegation rewards already, but let me just say - without good incentive to delegate, I would not delegate. This is speaking as a small account though.
That may sound greedy or whatever but remember that I give up my vote value through delegation, which in turn also effects my curation rewards on the posts I vote for. So if I am delegating my SP, it better be for a good reason.

So with that said, I don't think delegation rewards should change.. Perhaps get better, even! Well, no.. It's great right now..
I only mention this because it was mentioned in this post that delegation rewards were being contemplated

Have I missed any other, even minor changes in the past month?

<3 I LOVE SBI!

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We decided to make the decrease to 0.50x multiplier last over the same time period as originally proposed for decrease to 0x. That means we are doing 0.05x per week decrease every week instead of 0.10x. We are only a few weeks into it so it hasn't moved very far yet.

We don't intend to make any changes to delegation right now. Delegation for rewards is still a widely accepted practice on Steem (and one that we think is overall postivie for Steem).

Sometimes though it's just lazy people trying to make as much profit on their crap as they can.

I have at various points put a lot of thought into adding quality score elements to the upvoting system, but additional complication has to 100% be worth the development cost and the extra difficulty in helping people understand it. In this case, we think that trusting the 'wisdom of the crowd', while backstopping that with active blacklists is a much more simple process and works almost as well.

The issues we have seen lately are that long-time Steemians that have done a lot of good for their communities (and built up quite a high SBI level in the process) have entered a negative sentiment stage because of more recent developments in Steem. As such, these members have had dramatic collapse in their content quality but nobody is bothering to report them to us.

We are happy to investigate any reports received, and we even have a channel in our Discord specifically for reporting low quality posts that have SBI votes on them (especially spam/fraud/plagiarism which are explicitly identified as abusive in our FAQ).