Tooo many treeeeeeesssss people! This is looking like a forest...
Maybe only allow 1 free share per day @shiftrox? and if people want to do more, they have to pay some cents? I know they can still post, but just to teach people to avoid spamming.
Good evening. Sorry for the delay, things have been pretty hectic for me yesterday and today, and I wasn't able to keep up with things here. I already thought about the limit on sharing on Snaps and set it at 3 per person, but its a great idea to limit it to just 1 share per day.
Just educational... but good to have your app protected from people doing stupid things :D
Probably makes sense to gamify something about this into a community space? Still working so... brain is mushy...
Maintaining stuff is quite a hard work isn't it? :D I got the impression you know by now LOLOL although great work you are doing with this one. I has grabbed a lot of people so far. We need a leaderboard eventually :D
I totally get it, haha. It's good to avoid spam—I've limited it to one share per day, and I think it's already working. As for the leaderboard, I'm thinking about it. I'll send you some ideas on Discord, and we'll refine them to lay the groundwork for it.
2/ I could set it up so people can buy to share, but I think that if we do that, it should be a small amount, and then everyone will end up paying again to share. It did get a little complicated, because there are several actions that people can share, but I’ll review that today.
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On hivesuite app, I keep this filter on & with that, I can see my focused feed.
Let people share what they want & you as a user, you decide what you want to see.
That's a really nice feature (maybe add a customised selection of which accounts belong to each group), and I agree that filtering goes over the problem. But I want to educate the "less savvy" users about the possible social "consequences" they are not aware... and yes, everyone can post as much as their accounts are allowed (RC wise), but then others might not see that as a great thing, and they may decide to downvote those comments. And I want to protect people from that potential behaviour, especially when I know many don't understand why.
When these are things triggered by apps, then the problem is exacerbated, because the users might not even understand what they are doing. And by using the app of someone, they might be thinking they are not doing anything wrong. And this jeopardises both the app creators (who, if they just allow these things to be facilitated with no regard for ANYTHING, then they are being irresponsible in my view, because they don't care about the consequences, the impact, etc) and also the user who gets clashes from the potential downvoting of their content at the expense of not understanding what's happening by just using an app. The experience will go down the drain eventually for everyone that don't use the "SAME EXACT" filtering options. And then it's when stupid wars might begin...
Everyone is still able to post anything they want... but if tomorrow a game allows you to comment via snaps (a place architected for a short communication format), tons of comments that basically just show the progress of a game... then without a general consensus on how snaps should work, it makes things less valuable in my opinion (someone could just put those comments into a particular community for example, which does not polute the experience of human based snaps communication). I am speaking for myself... I would not use just 1 tool to make my life easier just because others don't offer me the same experience. My reaction would be to actually stop checking snaps...
So, with this, I want to convey that, in my opinion, app creators should care about the consequences of others using their software. For good and for bad. The way should be influencing the good behaviours and disincentivising the bad ones while still allowing freedom. So that we all get more value for all we are doing.
See this comment for example, is way bigger than a "snap" usual comment, because I used a specific app, but because this is just a comment, there is no limit on characters... if I use a normal interface for commenting. And if I keep doing these very long-format comments, then I am sure some people might not like it... and they are within their right to start downvoting me for it, signalling they don't think I should be rewarded for this action/content/behaviour, etc.
I hope people understand what I am trying to say with this. After all, I want the same as everyone else: more value!
agree 100%
when I said let authors post what they want - I meant with education
meaning that, they should be well aware of consequences & they should know frequency & length etc
Does that filter game results from sites that aren't Hive Suite? I've blocked many people because of them.
I've filtered out groove, hivesuite games, word games.
If you know any other, please share sample link - we'll update filter accordingly.
Yes. we understand the pattern of snaps of those games & add filter accordingly.
AI driven filters will immediately get expensive
While not games, scrobble autoposts youtube vids to the feed and are the same nuicance, but would require a different filter, I think, because many users view them differently.
Already added that filter.
Requesting you to check screenshot again
Filter says - "Hide movie/music reviews"
Sorry, just woke up with blurry eyes and stopped scanning and only took in the info I needed to see, lol
No worries. English not being native, sometimes conveys the thing I don't want to & doesn't conveys the thing I want to.
I never wanted to sound rude. I just wanted to say - yes we covered that part too.
I felt instantaneous remorse for my own share... so decided to at least comment about it.
I posted the same thing about all the game result shares from HiveSuite and they put a limit on it, I think. Or... it was my point about doing too many could cause users to mute them. he he
Most users don't even realize what they are doing... and that there are "consequences" for our own actions. Being those sometimes positive or negative.
But yeah, good call on that one too. I am sure @shiftrox will find a way to make it better.
I'm going to limit it to one share per person every 24 hours; I think that will cut down on it quite a bit.
Even if there are only 100 players of that three game and all of them share exactly once a day, then that means 100 trees to be seen on Hive microblogging frontends !INDEED! 🤯😆
!WEIRD !HOPE !MMB !PIZZA
I help people but avoid posting it. They get notified on their game dashboard so why snap it. Even for Scrobble. Life it should be one only.
It really depends on the context... if every time you are sharing something you are not repeating yourself in almost any aspect, then that's just normal "frequent" posting, but if the thing you are doing is constantly being the same, and it clearly shows that someone is just reacting and not thinking... it becomes a bit problematic, especially when there is no real intentions of causing any harm, but as a result, things will be seen that way.
Posting is after all the most freedom related way for people to communicate on chain... :D but with power, responsibility it comes :D
I just wanted to be clear that this should not be an exercise of blocking things that we don't see being very good to the chain necessarily (because there are other consequences of doing that), but instead an educational theme, in order for people to embrace the wider perspective and responsible way.
