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glenalbrethsen in #culture • 6 years ago

Been turning up the controversy a notch on the old blog, have we? :)

I don't know much about Galveston's police procedure, and I don't know what's supposed to be better (waiting around for a squad car, however long that might take, maybe?), but I do know bad optics when I see it.

I'm not one who believes criminals should be treated with kids gloves. I don't know that the officers should need to walk just because the criminal would have to, nor do I think the criminal should get the horse ride. So, what else is there?

The pendulum has swung in the direction of identity, be it race, gender, sexual orientation, or based on something else. If the identity makeup is not in your favor, I guess this is what happens, regardless of who is the criminal and who is not.

That said, law enforcement in this day and age should be thinking about how things look, because others are. And they're on the spot with camera phone in hand to upload to social media.

And I wonder. Do these police officers ever arrest people who are not black, hispanic, or some other ethnic minority? Do they ever walk a white person like this a couple of blocks to the station? What would be the ratio? It can't be racism if it's race neutral—where all instances have followed the same protocol. I don't think we'll get that information, and even if we did, I don't think anyone is going to care because, as stated, this is 2019.

6 years ago in #culture by glenalbrethsen

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janton 6 years ago

lol! Howdy sir Glen! I just like to post about things that I find interesting and yes sometimes controversial! lol. I try not to make boring posts but I don't always succeed.

Yes, you are exactly right. It's a tough job for the officers. The ones I know from our small town are honorable men but there's been so much air time for the bad apples that they get lumped in together.

Well, this incident made them change their policy so that's a good thing for optics. I have to assume they treat everyone that way if it's policy. Or was policy. I never thought about how mounted officers transfer people, now we know how they USED to do it!

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smithlabs 6 years ago

But the only ones Reported by the MSM, are ones they can call racists. This same mounted Officer, arresting a White Man does NOT support their agenda....

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glenalbrethsen 6 years ago

Hey, @smithlabs.

re: MSM agenda

No, it does not. It's funny how things can go to the opposite extreme. Martin Luther King, Jr said he longed for a day where he and everyone else could be judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Instead of that happening fifty or so years on, the pendulum has merely been swinging to the other extreme, where another color is now responsible for all of society's ills.

Funny thing is, if you look at the make up of the media, the entertainment business, the educational system, corporations and the governments, any organization that might be prone to give voice to "that's racist", it's going to be mainly comprised of white people, simply because over the length and breadth of this country, white people are still in the majority. So, basically, those of us who are white are in effect helping those who are not to call ourselves racists.

I go back to the picture of the fight that broke out between ANTIFA and the group termed as White Supremacists a couple of years ago and if you look really hard, it's still difficult to find more than one or two people of color among all the white folk pounding on each other. :)

I know I don't need to tell you this, but we can't even get the wording right when we say "that's racist." I'll do it anyway, for the good of the order. Skin color is not a race. Mexican is not a race. And scientists are still debating if race exists, let alone how many there might be, which the last time I looked, was between 3 to potentially 10 or more.

I think other people identify me more as a middle aged, white, heterosexual male than I do. :) I don't feel the need to announce who I am, what I do, or how bigoted or racist everyone else is. I don't think others need to, either. I don't really need to know how they self-identify, nor do I really care. It's live and let live. As long as I'm not infringing on anyone's rights, and their not treading on mine, we're good. I just try to do what I think is best, learn from my mistakes, apologize and provide restitution when possible (aka repentance) and try not to burn bridges along the way. :)

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smithlabs 6 years ago

WE don't have to burn any bridges, the liberals will do that for everyone! The more fractured they can make us, the easier it is for them to Rule.

The racial divide they keep pounding upon, ceased to exist, except for in their hearts years ago. BUT they can't allow it to die, it is their most valuable tool!

They no longer want to be equal, they want to be superior in all respects, so the rest of us are simply serfs.

These are Evil people bent on doing Evil things!

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janton 6 years ago

Very true Sir smithlabs. It's interesting that all the left does is scream racism and white nationalists but this is not a racist country at all and those who are racist are a tiny minority.

The white nationalists are such a small fringe group that they almost don't register in the statistics, something like 1/10th of 1%. So their accusations have no basis in fact. But they sure are divisive.

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smithlabs 6 years ago

Their goal is to divide us into small enough groups, that they can consume us easily. They no longer have a soul, having sold it years ago....

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janton 6 years ago

Sounds like a plot from a movie about aliens.

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smithlabs 6 years ago

Fitting, they haven't been on the planet Earth for decades....

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glenalbrethsen 6 years ago

It's amazing how so few people on any side can lead the rest of the population around by the nose and still retain power. I'm at the point now where I really don't trust anyone, regardless of who they are who they represent, with power, because it changes people. Those who go in with the intent to rule over everyone are the worst, but the ones who go in with good intentions end up becoming just as dangerous because they can lead others to believe in things they would never otherwise. All for the good of the order.

There's plenty of divisiveness to go around, in one form or another. And yet, the party machines roll on, and the worst possible agendas for the American people continue to get rammed through, by an inch here or a mile there. Doesn't matter who's in the majority. Direction is primarily the same, with speed more or less the difference. Terminal velocity or terminal velocity times ten. Take your pick. :)

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smithlabs 6 years ago

We get all the government we allow. They use to be held to a higher standard, now they are not held to ANY standard at all! They can commit any crime, and retain their jobs.

We allow it, so we must accept it....

>:(

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misterengagement 6 years ago

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smithlabs 6 years ago

What is this token, and how is it used? new to me....

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glenalbrethsen 6 years ago

We definitely get what we allow and accept.

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smithlabs 6 years ago

What is this engage stuff? New to me....

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glenalbrethsen 6 years ago

Hey, @smithlabs.

Sorry for the late reply. ENGAGE tokens are abh12345's creation through STEEM-Engine. I can't remember how long ago, but it's been several months, I think. There's been all kinds of tokens created and ENGAGE is one of them. :)

It's STEEM-based, so it can be traded for STEEM on STEEM-Engine, or held. Beyond that, it doesn't have any other application.

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smithlabs 6 years ago

I don't understand how we have come to accept such low quality leaders and police! Fire them, and start over....

:'(

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toddrjohnson 6 years ago

I used to think that racism and the racial divide had gotten very low in the US. Sadly, I was mistaken as I have seen both in the data and in my own relatives in Ohio and Kentucky, along with quite a few folks here in Texas. There was always an undertone of racism in my relatives speech, but once Obama was elected it all came pouring out, largely against him at first, then at others. I won't even write the things I have heard them say. After Trump was elected their language got worse--he has made it ok to use such speech, since he constantly vilifies others in some attempt to please his base. While it is clear from reports of his past that he is racist, I think he is largely just a person who likes to insult people who he doesn't like--kind of an equal opportunity discriminator! Now with respect to my relatives, they will all claim that they are not racists... then turn around and say awful race-based things. It took me some time, because I didn't want to believe it, but they really are racists and they really are awful. Next, a Pew report (https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/) shows that the majority of Americans feel that race relations are bad and not improving and a majority feel that Trump has made the situation worse. So your opinion is not shared by the majority of Americans.

Ok, that's just opinion and could be wrong, but a study of 20 million children suggests that race plays a huge role in where they end up as adults. You can see the data here (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/learning/lesson-plans/moving-on-up-teaching-with-the-data-of-economic-mobility.html). 39% of white boys who came from wealthy families were wealthy as adults, whereas only 18% of black boys were wealthy adults. Wealthy black kids who ended up poor as adults were double the percentage of wealthy white kids. There is much more data in this article and the main article that it points to.

Of course, you might wonder if genetics plays a role in this. And as a scientist, I see that as a valid question, not a racist question, though we do need to be very careful in this area. The current answer is that there is some role, but not enough to account for educational attainment (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/science/genes-education.html). Furthermore, race is more of a social construct, not something tied to genes, which can show larger variations within those who look the same than between those who look very different. See here: http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/science-genetics-reshaping-race-debate-21st-century/

As for wanting to fracture people, I don't know any progressives or liberals who want to do that. I am more progressive than liberal, yet what I want the most is for folks to come together to define problems, then look at actual data and proposals to solve them. I've largely given up with my relatives, because they refuse to consider any data that doesn't match their world view--a view that is basically echoing Fox News and that is mostly demonstrably untrue. I can carefully explain the evidence for climate change to them, but they deny it all. I can show them data like I have posted above, and they simply refuse to look at it. In other words, it is impossible to have an actual intelligent conversation with them about major issues. Many of us abhor Trump because he is so divisive. We need a leader who can bring people together, not tear people apart, but Trump is incapable of doing that--he just can't help himself. So if you see folks calling him and those who condone him out, that is not wanting to fracture people--that is instead a plea for he and them to stop being divisive.

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smithlabs 6 years ago

Every person has their own viewpoint. When twisted by others, who also have their own viewpoint too; anything can be presented as racist.

The term has been applied so broadly, it no longer means anything. Like the boy who cried Wolf, the boy who cried racist is now being ignored. Overuse dilutes a term to the point of uselessness.

I have had liberals accuse me of being a racist, yet my religion requires that I do Not see skin color; and I have done that, as I should. I have many close friends who GOD saw fit to wrap in every skin color there is. I am security, every weekend for All of them, and I would die to protect them! I helped bring home the cutest little baby Boy (Named Simian) from the Hospital, 11 years ago. He is so rotten today...just like a boy should be! His Father is from Nigeria, and helps me every month with the homeless meal.

When we feed the homeless, we have all skin colors serving these homeless, who also have the same mixture of skin colors. The World works best this way!

I look at the fruits of any Man, to see his heart. President Trump has hired more Minority employees than the national average. This is not the History of a racist. He has done more good for minorities in a couple of years than Obama did in 8. Judging by fruits, the racist title should go to someone besides Trump....

The main stream media lies a lot, and very little of what they say has factual backup. Please check their stories carefully. The divisiveness you speak of is coming from the MSM, and their handlers.

IF you are science based, and can follow the data, I would love to discuss man made global warming with you! I am a scientist, and the subject is so very rich in nuances; that I read a lot on it.

Be blessed, and don't give up on your family; they are the only one you have!

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janton 6 years ago

Yeah that wouldn't have been much of a story sir smithlabs.

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smithlabs 6 years ago

Not the kind of story they cover...Ever!

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